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archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's

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just another night for Supernatural

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life's biggest supernatural mysteries

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and now further exciting interview with

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paranormal experts this world and others

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here's your host paranormal researcher

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welcome everyone to supernatural girls

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radio i am your host patricia baker and

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i am here with my co-host Patricia

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Kirkman PK how are you tonight

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absolutely melting in this Arizona heat

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oh poor thing well I know we're both so

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excited because this is our very first

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thank you fabulous it is so exciting

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that's why I have to laugh I'm saying

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the Arizona heat has got me all primed

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but it's the show that's making it all

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happen it is it-it's great it is great

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hope they did now oh I hope so we put

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out enough information but we're going

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goodness tonight to night we have oh

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what a wider wait yes my god now you

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know PK we've had some incredible

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incredible guests and supernatural girls

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radio over the last couple of years

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mm-hmm but tonight's guest is

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extraordinary definitely then ordinary

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and we are so honored to have her here

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with us now we could list all of her

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accomplishments but it would take up the

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whole show I don't I cannot believe that

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she's written so many books 36 plus

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books stories plays she even had a movie

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made a Hollywood movie made out of one

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of her books with starring major a-list

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talent this patrice Chaplin is amazing

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and we're going to give you a tiny

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summary of all of our accomplishments

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and before we bring Patrice on and to

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talk about portals mysteries Howard

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Hughes the stone cradle and how to open

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up our own psychic abilities we got to

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find out about our numbers what is going

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on with the numbers what are we going to

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look forward to tomorrow well this whole

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month has been about accepting change

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good to bad bad to good I passed by

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those and tomorrow is going to be a day

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that is equally

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the same because the day and the month

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are identical so we are going to be

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bombarded with all kinds of interesting

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things so for those of you that are

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doing things too quickly in a hurry you

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better put a pillow behind your back

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side because you might be sitting on it

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uh-huh and be cautious of your driving

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not so much you're driving as much as

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watching that of other people because

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everybody's in a hurry you can see them

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a lot better than they will see you so

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be cautious they have eyes in the back

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of your head oh yes and if you're a

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gambler oh wow what a day what a day

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because it's all about being a risk

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taker in a bit of a gambler for the

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month and the day just adds another glow

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in another actual space that you could

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do a double d double dipping in it we'll

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put it that way so I could win the

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lottery tomorrow huh you could will he

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lie my probably on your chart hey wait a

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second I'm buy my tickets that's the

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whole thing if you think you got

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something good going by one if you're

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going to win the one would do it okay so

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we don't get crazy with a ton of tickets

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here all right up by 12 me too I of

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course of course and I'll do the same

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here oh good well then we have to take

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care of each other you know we have a

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look out for each other here my goodness

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me well I'm not traveling alone you're

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gonna happy to be your traveling

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companion especially with lottery

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winnings why not oh yes even better well

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again we have an extraordinary guest

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tonight Patrice Chaplin is an

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internationally renowned playwright and

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author again she's published more than

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thirty six books plays and short stories

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her works include Albany Park siesta

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darkness into the darkness laughing

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hidden star night fishing death trap but

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my favorite the portal oh my god do I

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love that book and if you guys haven't

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read it yet out in the audience you

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better go to Amazon or wherever your

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local bookstore is by the portal it is a

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magnificent book and also she has city

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of secrets again all paranormal

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adventures Patrice is an intuitive also

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very talented clairvoyant and so she

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writes she really draws you into that

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whole incredible world she has a new

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book coming out called the stone cradle

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which you and I have previewed oh my God

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we're gonna be talking about that one

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and also the fortune seller which is out

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and I mean am I going to see it i mean i

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could just keep talking about everything

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Patrice has done and we never get around

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the show so how about this let's bring

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Patrice Chaplin on to the show with us

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Patrice welcome to supernatural girls hi

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welcome to my life it's good talking to

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you it's sort of like middle of the

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night here in London I'm very happy

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aksama night persons that's great and

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I'm so so sorry it's so hot we've got a

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watcher driving tomorrow but otherwise

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fine well that's good news and thank you

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so much for staying up so late to talk

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to all of our audience I mean I know

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people have been emailing all day

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they're so excited to hear from you and

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we have so much to talk to you about I

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barely know where to begin I mean you

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are right in the thick of everything

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with the Rena Chateau mystery the Grail

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the stone cradle mean your life's path

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has been amazing so you must feel so

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guided so inspired with all of these

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topics and this this great European

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adventure that you're on well I in a way

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yes Patricia on I'm I am I think I have

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been guided it started a long time ago

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when I was 15 and I went first into

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girona in Spain that's in northeast

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Spain it's in just near the Pyrenees

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Mountains um if you know people want to

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know where that is it's the mountain

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range between

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in Spain and girona is an ancient city

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at the time they thought it was 4,000

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years old but it turns out that there

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are bones and and does proof that it was

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at least 25,000 years old all right so

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every time I go there I get older but so

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does the place you know so I I feel over

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the time those stone walls and I have

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both side we both kind of grow together

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but I would say oh you know when I was

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15 and that was the beginning of the

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journey it seemed like I had no other

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other perhaps no other option because i

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fell in love I fell in love with the man

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the he was a poet he's a Catalan

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nationalist Jose I've written about him

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quite a lot and I mean you can write a

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lot about him he's enigmatic he's

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charismatic he was a very brave Catalan

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nationalists in the war against Franco I

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mean he wasn't in that war but he

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certainly took care of things afterwards

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he seemed to be a man without fear um I

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thought an immediate familiarity with

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him as though I mean our souls really

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did touch of you so if you'll excuse

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that expression but now it's perfect yes

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yeah I still know he and I were actually

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we were meant we were meant to do this

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journey together they took a long time

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to realize that he was born into it I

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just arrived in it but it included as

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you pointed out all those places like

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when the Chateau its disowned cradle and

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it's even further afield than that and

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what is more about girona is the number

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of people that have been there people

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I've never heard of it but if one said

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Howard Hughes for example had been there

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that's quite a big name and I fool Otto

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Rahn that's a German it's a german

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writer yeah i think he went with Howard

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Hughes he did

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with hog use to girona has been mishan

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cocteau was there Salvador Dali lived

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nearby so I'd is a um well actually the

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films were made there like Pandora and

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the Flying Dutchman that's Ava Gardner

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Elizabeth Taylor went there because she

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was filming suddenly last summer so

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there was always things happening around

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that place well it's amazing again with

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your experiences in life that you have

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found such a profound spiritual path

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because you went on your own initiation

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journey which was dangerous I mean some

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people that went on the same journey did

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not survive and you did it yes are we

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talking about the earlier one when I

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went when I was 15 because that was the

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good one that was Jenna yeah with my

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friend barrel I mean we will we were

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travelers we wanted to be gypsies or

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when we were gypsies I mean we left the

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suburbs of London and we we hitchhiked

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which one didn't do in those days this

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is in the late fifties you know and we

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went down just we went through France we

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met um jean-paul Sartre who was you know

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I'm a man who was on a very acclaimed

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academic and Simone de Beauvoir when we

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were in Paris no we didn't know who

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these people were but a lot of people

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were gathered around them every morning

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at eleven o'clock in the Duma go cafe in

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Paris and you know they said to us we do

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our French my friend barrel and I are

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French was pretty poor but we got along

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and they said we were existentialists

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and that was kind of interesting and we

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wonder what that was and later will you

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have no past you don't worry about the

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future you live in a minute and we saw

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that's good enough and that was our ID

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and interesting because that so many

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people aspire to to be in the moment and

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here you were doing it so naturally but

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let me ask you because you we meant

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and we talked before and I know our

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audience is awaiting the word on this

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with bated breath we talked about

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portals and you've had the experience in

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the Rhenish atoll area in Girona of

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natural portals can you tell us what

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exactly is a portal and what did you

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experience there mmm well on portal is

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it worth us the the planet where the

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earth and the atmosphere is thin and

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there's a passageway through which you

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can go to other places I mean you can't

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go with your gravity ridden human body

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you're going with your astral body

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you're going you're focusing with your

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conscious mind and you're going through

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the pool clear your bodies outside

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that's the important thing it's like

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going through a doorway once you get to

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the other side all bets are off because

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you're carried on that journey it's like

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my guide said to me forget all about

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control just know she said forget all

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about control belief would be a better

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Ally and how long she was and it's a bit

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in a way what is it like it's like going

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on a fairground ride now when i went

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with barrel i'm on that journey i mean

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by jamba after jean-paul sartre given us

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the idea and all the rest we hitchhiked

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on to Spain to the Pyrenees where we

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went through the customs and one of the

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soldiers pointed to the mountain and we

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thought what is up there and he said ha

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the pork roll you look as though you

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both have come from there that was the

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first time we heard about it we were

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dressed in artistic bohemian clothes we

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said never seen so they thought this

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these two people are incredible they

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must be ETS or something I don't they

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didn't they didn't know what to do with

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us and we we said well what is the

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portal is it a club that we somehow

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missed on our trip because I went a

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little fast and danced and so on and he

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to know they the people from the pool

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what'll they don't come from around here

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that was the first we heard about it so

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then fast forward a lot of time and I'm

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having the portal experience which I I

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wanted to do and dread it it was like

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going in for an operation you know do

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you do it or not spin a coin or just go

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for it so all right do it but we did it

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and the thing about it is let me say

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fairground ride you speed through your

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life very fast it's it like a little

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skin compared with the previous stuff

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that has gone on then you go into other

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times other places and it becomes more

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vivid the further you go now people who

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are seriously let's say a serious adept

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to have done a lot of spiritual

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preparation for this they can go they

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can go into other intelligences other

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other galaxies I mean time time has no

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has no relevance here and space is

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something which is like it doesn't have

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what how we see it what is out there is

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a different measurement all together so

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that's the first thing I learned and

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also when I came back from that

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experience I realized I had no fear that

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i'm afraid that comes back to some

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degree not with all the ones who do it

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well this is quite an adventure I mean

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and you talk about you need preparation

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for it and in your book the portal you

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also wrote about some people who try to

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make this journey and didn't make it

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through I mean didn't live they actually

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live they died yeah so this is a very I

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didn't get back to their body were two

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things one they didn't do the

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preparation so when they went into the

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portal space they imploded I mean of

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their body their body they couldn't they

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couldn't do it second they didn't come

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back to their body in time they went on

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the astral plane you know you know

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that is now yeah force and so the

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important thing was to get back in time

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and to always remember your north they

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said always go back to the north because

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if you go to the south you're going to

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death so it's very important you had to

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have some consciousness and awareness

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about yourself when you were in this in

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this position of going through the

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portal you couldn't just go well you

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could go but then the chance is where

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you would necessarily come back if you

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didn't come back in time your body would

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not exist so that would be that you were

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told what termed dead then quite a few

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people unfortunately that's what

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happened you need a very good guide a

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very powerful guide to show you how to

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do it I mean an earthly guide here on

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this earth to show you teach you and put

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you through the process of the journey

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and you talk about being prepared

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Patrice for this are you also talking

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about cleansing yourself emotionally so

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you don't walk through with shame and

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guilt and anger some of the baggage that

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we generally carry on an everyday basis

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absolutely I mean she the guide my guide

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she was called Lillian she said

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immediately she said it's better to

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clear it all now because if you go with

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just one element one spot of the

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negative qualities you were just talking

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about if you weren't with just one of

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those hell would seem like a pleasant

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place compared with what you'd meet if

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he went through the portal carrying that

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stuff right old-school it had to be

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dropped wow she gave a very severe

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warning and I took that very much to

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heart so I even did what she said after

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a bit the first I was resistant because

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it didn't make sense so I should give up

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everything that seemed a bit unfair but

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after being with her for maybe ten days

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I saw the point and this lady had done

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it she'd done it many times and who did

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you know

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amazing thing about her was she didn't

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look anything like her age she was

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ageless now I'm sure was over 90 she was

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she was amazing very interested in isn't

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that something well it's a big risk to

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take but you have to be prepared and you

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have to have a guide like you had with

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Lillian and still it I mean for your

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life's purpose it sounds like this was

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so much a part of what you were meant to

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do it would seem so other people

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recognized it before I did if you see

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what I mean people who came with me on

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the journey said that varies very words

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this is obviously what you were meant to

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do you were meant to come to girona

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meant to meet the man meant to follow

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him through this work meant to write the

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books and then eventually to go on the

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journey of the portal and then from

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there go to the center of it all which

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is a stone cradle now we got to get to

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that because that is something that I

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have never heard about from anybody but

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you you are the one you're the authority

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on this and so we're going to talk about

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that in a few minutes but i also want to

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touch on a couple things this portal

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that you experienced was a natural

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portal that's what you call it a natural

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portal it was a natural portal it's a

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very large portal it contains it's right

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3,000 meters up you know it well it's a

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very high mountain is to get to the

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summit you've got to go above the tree

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line the summit is very small it's like

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a dance floor really it's so small you

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have to go up there there is a portal

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and to go through that portal you can't

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you encounter quite vivid and powerful

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things from the area around and if you

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think that that area can i gue was the

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highest point of all the castle activity

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and many much of the history quiz

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lots of things were going on through

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history around that place so it carries

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all that so it's a powerful portal there

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are smaller ones I suppose in a way it's

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like game of snakes and ladders you know

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where you see sick snakes and thins

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think some peláez a smaller and others

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are much larger but this is very much a

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natural portal and it is you know it's

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not for nothing the mountains called the

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sacred mountain of the Catalans because

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it has its own magic so these are

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natural porter portals that exist on

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earth and we're also going to talk about

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the fact that some people decided they

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were going to make their own portals

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we're going to get to that tonight too

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but first we have a question for you

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from the chat room carol has written in

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and she said are there physical remains

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here on earth when an individual

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implodes as a result of unsuccessful

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portal entry yes 28 times I know of um

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one very sadly about two and a half

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years ago of someone who went on his own

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certainly his body was found but it

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would seem as though some almost like

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inner explosion had happened another

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time somebody went through and they had

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what seemed to be a heart attack another

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time someone was like burned it had no

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signs of what had happened quite honest

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reason yeah does it this beam but no

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those are kind of warnings in a way and

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the guide said shortly before the first

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man died you have to go with a guide it

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so it's a privilege to go through the

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portal it's something you never forget

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it adds to life it gives life a much

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bigger vast experience but you've got to

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have the humility to go with the guide

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and listen that's really it and the

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trees i must say that your experian

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ends of the portal it feels to me that

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it has connected you in such a major way

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with source energy because let me tell

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you why when when you speak you are on

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our show a couple of years ago when

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Helene Olson was alive and it was the

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most amazing thing as it is tonight

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listening to you because PK and I are

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listening to your words as is our

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audience but there is an incredibly

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powerful stream of energy that's also

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coming from you at the same time exactly

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yes can you feel it it's house

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definitely affect I was going to ask her

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the question about the guides that keep

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taking people through what how does it

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affect them overall since they do it

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more than once um I feel they they see

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it as a an advanced in in their lives

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it's a promotion they don't go through

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with you through thick take a to they

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see so they take you to and that you do

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to the portal they're there when you

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return they don't go with you went you

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into the pork or there is another guide

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on the other side of life who is there

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waiting for you that person will give

519
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you give you a commentary on what is

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happening and will explain something

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maybe give some advice I mean you're on

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the particular portal journey can I go

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that one I I was given I was offered a

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white swan feather by a man with a white

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he had a white dusty wig he looked like

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someone 17th century like a academic

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depending handed me do this for this one

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fair the white swan feather I didn't

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know what to do I didn't know what to do

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with it and then I sort of my thinking

531
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was shall I take it and then I heard the

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guide with who it's a person I knew on

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this earth who had passed over in spirit

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and he said I think you should take it

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up Patrice one second we are going to

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have to

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Chaplin we are talking about portals and

596
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all kinds of exciting paranormal things

597
00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:14,660
tonight and Patrice during the break we

598
00:30:18,490 --> 00:30:16,790
were all talking about where these

599
00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:18,500
portals are and you said you knew of

600
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:20,750
three more so do tell where are these

601
00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:24,530
other portals well I know the there's

602
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:27,950
one in Paris you know by the Garcon

603
00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:31,520
oscillates as one which is a narrow pork

604
00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:35,990
roll which goes back only probably into

605
00:30:43,570 --> 00:30:40,790
the 50s not very far back it's go but it

606
00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:43,580
certainly goes into another time down a

607
00:30:49,210 --> 00:30:46,220
long corridor it's a kind of very

608
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:49,220
different experience it's supposed to be

609
00:30:55,150 --> 00:30:51,410
a bad portal and it's where there's a

610
00:30:57,340 --> 00:30:55,160
lot of drugs and substances available

611
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:57,350
people go there because they have a much

612
00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:00,320
bigger hit when they're taking stuff in

613
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:05,480
our legs really mmm and that was I'm I

614
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:09,530
went there once and I'm I sped out of

615
00:31:16,180 --> 00:31:12,710
there because it was done it was in a

616
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:16,190
hallucinatory place that I thought you

617
00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:18,620
got in there you didn't easily come out

618
00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:21,350
you got sucked into it that that one was

619
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:24,500
not good news and they called it a

620
00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:26,960
shallow porker but people had such a

621
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:30,200
high experiencer that they they would go

622
00:31:36,970 --> 00:31:33,170
there they would risk and get quite

623
00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:36,980
fixed on going there the second is now

624
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,380
this I heard about our will annoy I did

625
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:40,880
visit it too

626
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:43,250
but I didn't experience it Gramercy Park

627
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:47,600
Hotel the old gramercy park hotel before

628
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:50,720
it was done up in New York that was were

629
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:53,890
there was a portal experience in that

630
00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:58,640
hotel really yeah oh my and then the

631
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:02,080
other one that I have personally

632
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:06,590
experienced is a Marilyn in London

633
00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:10,850
Marylebone churchyard were add as a tree

634
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:14,630
a plane tree which is amazing where does

635
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:18,010
belong portal which goes to the top of

636
00:32:24,670 --> 00:32:21,290
Primrose Hill this is in North London

637
00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:24,680
and it's where Blake stood and had the

638
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:29,390
vision of Jerusalem and he wrote about

639
00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:33,410
the pork or just by this plane tree just

640
00:32:38,980 --> 00:32:35,780
in front of the church it's got a very

641
00:32:41,770 --> 00:32:38,990
powerful atmosphere and many people have

642
00:32:44,980 --> 00:32:41,780
gone there and had the experience of

643
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:44,990
being drawn in so it's not so much that

644
00:32:50,890 --> 00:32:48,110
you go there looking for a pork roll or

645
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:50,900
looking for this aperture which

646
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:53,930
sometimes is open sometimes closed but

647
00:33:01,480 --> 00:32:56,570
it's big by being there you're kind of

648
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:01,490
drawn into another state of being and I

649
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:04,250
think people there don't discuss it

650
00:33:10,510 --> 00:33:08,240
openly so it's near a healing church and

651
00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:10,520
they admit that there are there are

652
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:14,390
wonderful healing possibility sir that

653
00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:18,130
portal is beautiful it has many of the

654
00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:21,830
historical elements of the time there

655
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:23,750
but again you see the thing about it

656
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:27,290
portal journeys you start with now you

657
00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:29,570
go back through very fast through this

658
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:33,470
life into the path log files and into

659
00:33:39,910 --> 00:33:36,260
bigger lives wait you more vivid where

660
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:39,920
you don't you know you've been there you

661
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:43,120
know you are there but you don't really

662
00:33:49,570 --> 00:33:46,660
recognize you you've gone into the other

663
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:49,580
experience of thought and soul

664
00:33:54,330 --> 00:33:52,970
connection that's the point and then you

665
00:33:56,909 --> 00:33:54,340
come to a

666
00:33:59,700 --> 00:33:56,919
definitely an edge of another space

667
00:34:04,049 --> 00:33:59,710
altogether which is leading out into

668
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:04,059
vast spaces and vast beauty many

669
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:06,730
creative cases things that we cannot

670
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:09,760
actually see unless we've gone through

671
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:11,530
the poor club we wouldn't be able to see

672
00:34:17,129 --> 00:34:14,800
them as we all know I haven't done that

673
00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:17,139
but other people have they've explained

674
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:19,300
it it sounds wonderful I would love to

675
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,570
do it now when you are out there in on

676
00:34:26,970 --> 00:34:24,639
the other side of this portal and you

677
00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:26,980
have a guide does that guy tell you when

678
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:31,720
you need to come back no it comes it's a

679
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:36,159
pod myself from having trained enough

680
00:34:43,290 --> 00:34:39,490
with the guy done enough work in my case

681
00:34:47,869 --> 00:34:43,300
I did it for six to eight weeks when I

682
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:47,879
was I held a cane it was a bizarre

683
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:51,790
weather yes it was a came chicane it was

684
00:34:58,349 --> 00:34:54,550
made from a tree whittled down from a

685
00:35:02,839 --> 00:34:58,359
tree and I when I knew when it was time

686
00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:02,849
to come back with my back to the north I

687
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:06,790
was like a sense wasn't a voice it was a

688
00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:09,310
sense come back you've gone too far

689
00:35:14,849 --> 00:35:11,619
don't go further it's very attractive

690
00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:14,859
but come back and I know quite actually

691
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:18,700
quite i'm quite prudent by nature i mean

692
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:20,920
i wouldn't take the high jump and end up

693
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:26,800
on Venus you know somehow we do not me

694
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:30,160
right well that's that's a good thing I

695
00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:32,530
think especially in this case so these

696
00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:34,300
are the natural portals that you know

697
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:37,480
about that you've identified and there

698
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:39,970
are though there well I don't know how

699
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:42,910
many there are but Indian eyes on days i

700
00:35:47,550 --> 00:35:45,790
mean there must be loads rose ok all

701
00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:47,560
right so there's another they coming

702
00:35:53,849 --> 00:35:50,680
especially in clusters I don't think

703
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:53,859
that isolated I think they coming

704
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:55,630
started and I think that some of them

705
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:01,680
are not very good to to advance into the

706
00:36:07,859 --> 00:36:05,680
there are magnificent portals apparently

707
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:07,869
which on wood

708
00:36:12,690 --> 00:36:10,180
are so powerful that we again would

709
00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:12,700
implode we'd be crushed by just the

710
00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:15,099
power of them and they're surrounded by

711
00:36:20,609 --> 00:36:17,980
atmospheres that when you approach make

712
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:20,619
you feel ill make you feel unwell so you

713
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:23,230
don't go any further you go back right

714
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:25,990
it's a lot to do with the grid you are

715
00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:27,910
you familiar with the heartening grid

716
00:36:36,420 --> 00:36:31,720
and the measurement some he was a German

717
00:36:39,269 --> 00:36:36,430
doctor who made the grid of the numbers

718
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,279
that we could traverse as human beings

719
00:36:45,299 --> 00:36:41,680
you know I know actually aren't very

720
00:36:49,579 --> 00:36:45,309
many it look it comes to it so really as

721
00:36:52,259 --> 00:36:49,589
you yeah and it sort of below number 11

722
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,269
we're kind of sort of all right but not

723
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:54,880
you know for go below eight we were in

724
00:36:59,819 --> 00:36:57,190
trouble and these are just like a

725
00:37:03,120 --> 00:36:59,829
thermometer reading almost and if you go

726
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:03,130
higher up you can be in well-being say

727
00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:07,359
for up to 14 when you get to 18 you're

728
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:10,390
at the beginning of the unknown and for

729
00:37:15,809 --> 00:37:13,359
that you have to be an adept or a very

730
00:37:18,479 --> 00:37:15,819
very powerful spiritual master to go

731
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:18,489
beyond that and that is apparently the

732
00:37:24,089 --> 00:37:22,569
beginning of the portal down start so

733
00:37:27,450 --> 00:37:24,099
you can see that if you get a

734
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:27,460
magnificent portal which do does exist

735
00:37:32,309 --> 00:37:28,960
we couldn't approach you because it's

736
00:37:34,229 --> 00:37:32,319
too strong for us right it would be

737
00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:34,239
something we would feel we need to back

738
00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:36,430
away from but then here we are in the

739
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:41,380
United States and Howard Hughes has been

740
00:37:47,130 --> 00:37:43,569
known to get involved with some pretty

741
00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:47,140
wild things now there have been some

742
00:37:53,789 --> 00:37:49,980
stories that circulated about Howard and

743
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:53,799
the CIA and some German scientists that

744
00:37:58,979 --> 00:37:55,930
decided it would be a good idea to

745
00:38:01,319 --> 00:37:58,989
create a portal here in the United

746
00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:01,329
States and you have some information on

747
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:03,940
that can you tell us as much as you know

748
00:38:14,339 --> 00:38:09,599
of what happened well I some of it okay

749
00:38:15,930 --> 00:38:14,349
um well I know for a star that he came

750
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:15,940
to girona

751
00:38:27,309 --> 00:38:24,650
and that was around 33 1933 and that was

752
00:38:31,029 --> 00:38:27,319
worth it that was with the German writer

753
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:31,039
Otto Rahn and he was certainly looking

754
00:38:36,190 --> 00:38:33,650
for the pork roll and he went to girona

755
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:36,200
and there are accounts of him being in

756
00:38:43,539 --> 00:38:41,089
Girona and also people from the church

757
00:38:46,420 --> 00:38:43,549
who put him up you know for night to do

758
00:38:48,339 --> 00:38:46,430
they got to know him quite well what he

759
00:38:51,509 --> 00:38:48,349
spoke I don't know they must have spoke

760
00:38:55,059 --> 00:38:51,519
English I guess now the people in Girona

761
00:38:58,299 --> 00:38:55,069
they called him LOL americano the

762
00:39:00,220 --> 00:38:58,309
American but they didn't really know who

763
00:39:02,289 --> 00:39:00,230
he was and even when they were told you

764
00:39:04,029 --> 00:39:02,299
was Howard Hughes later on it didn't

765
00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:04,039
mean anything to them because he

766
00:39:11,319 --> 00:39:08,150
wouldn't yeah um and I think he he was

767
00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:11,329
looking for the journey he was looking

768
00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:14,150
for the journey along the 11 sites to

769
00:39:18,430 --> 00:39:15,950
the portal which I've written about in

770
00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:18,440
the book the portal he wanted to do

771
00:39:24,759 --> 00:39:21,980
those I rather think he didn't do see

772
00:39:28,420 --> 00:39:24,769
when team got a boat for the Scotland

773
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:28,430
and went to the south of the Equator he

774
00:39:34,839 --> 00:39:31,130
called it the Southern Cross and he did

775
00:39:38,259 --> 00:39:34,849
the journey on the south of the Equator

776
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:38,269
and it was in fact the journey of the

777
00:39:43,299 --> 00:39:40,430
Southern Cross which is apparently the

778
00:39:46,329 --> 00:39:43,309
same as the one in the north over the

779
00:39:49,210 --> 00:39:46,339
Pyrenees over round girona which is the

780
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:49,220
constellation of the Great Bear and the

781
00:39:57,839 --> 00:39:54,410
Seven Stars so he did it on his boat now

782
00:40:00,430 --> 00:39:57,849
people said you also came back in 53

783
00:40:04,589 --> 00:40:00,440
because that's when Ava Gardner was

784
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:04,599
filming Pandora with James Mason and

785
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:08,210
whether he came or not is I don't know I

786
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:10,250
have no no guarantee of that but I

787
00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:12,529
certain here quite a lot about him being

788
00:40:18,279 --> 00:40:15,980
over 33 now he was interested in the

789
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:18,289
poor club for the very simple fact that

790
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:20,240
you could go through the portal and

791
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:24,650
arrive instantaneously beyond time in

792
00:40:29,590 --> 00:40:27,529
other states of being and is fascinated

793
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:29,600
him and I was told again that he

794
00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:33,920
didn't have any fear a fear at all about

795
00:40:38,890 --> 00:40:36,680
those magnificent things like the big

796
00:40:41,860 --> 00:40:38,900
journeys he wanted to go fast and

797
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:41,870
further than anyone else into the Sun

798
00:40:47,770 --> 00:40:44,570
into where wherever it took him he

799
00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:47,780
wanted to be there and yet you know he'd

800
00:40:53,530 --> 00:40:50,390
look at a cockroach in a room and think

801
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:53,540
it was a dinosaur oh my god you see that

802
00:41:00,160 --> 00:40:56,690
was something Oh probably to do with

803
00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:00,170
thee with the whole business of the

804
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:04,520
change of time and condition that we go

805
00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:07,630
through if we are going into other space

806
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:10,790
you know we can't just do it we have to

807
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:12,890
be prepared and really go through the

808
00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:17,810
practice now he did also because he he

809
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:19,940
must have had some experience as a

810
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:22,190
portal on Kenny good because after the

811
00:41:28,690 --> 00:41:26,000
war Second World War he sent German

812
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:28,700
scientists there to get all the

813
00:41:35,290 --> 00:41:31,910
measurements and the world velocities

814
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:35,300
all the scientific facts of the portal

815
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:38,030
and bring it over to him in the States

816
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:42,800
and he had a a building um which had a

817
00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:47,750
vast basement where he made replicas of

818
00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:49,790
the portal and I heard about this from

819
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:53,750
someone in NASA who phoned me after I'd

820
00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:57,110
written the book city of Secrets when it

821
00:42:02,350 --> 00:41:59,090
came out in America the first thing you

822
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:02,360
asked me phone I was phone by that by

823
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:05,810
that term establishment and asked had i

824
00:42:12,340 --> 00:42:09,680
come into contact at any time with

825
00:42:14,650 --> 00:42:12,350
artificial portals well no I hadn't had

826
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:14,660
only come into contact with a couple of

827
00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:16,970
normal ones you know I didn't know and

828
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:19,940
the man told me well it was an aviator

829
00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:26,570
who'd gone to Spain and had got though

830
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:29,630
all the facts and then the measurements

831
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:33,490
and the structure of a real portal and

832
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:38,720
replicated it in America and forgot had

833
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:41,450
forgotten one vital thing which was the

834
00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:42,950
quarantined

835
00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:46,070
and the quarantine was the thing that

836
00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:50,320
makes the portal safe so there we have a

837
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:53,780
we have a portal without a quarantine

838
00:43:01,569 --> 00:42:58,160
which has instant access as of going out

839
00:43:05,050 --> 00:43:01,579
but it also allows things in oh boy and

840
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:05,060
yeah it's scary well that was scary

841
00:43:12,849 --> 00:43:08,170
because what came in was well it was

842
00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:12,859
called the black box and within it was a

843
00:43:20,829 --> 00:43:17,630
picture apparently of or some drawing

844
00:43:23,740 --> 00:43:20,839
some some will escalate drawing some

845
00:43:30,970 --> 00:43:23,750
description of a being who would be

846
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:30,980
coming here 50,000 light-years away so

847
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:33,440
he the being is 50,000 light-years away

848
00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:36,010
and would be coming here when that time

849
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:38,630
50,000 light-years was that he'd be on

850
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:42,790
earth and he wanted to say hello well I

851
00:43:49,329 --> 00:43:46,010
i heard that sounded good I mean I just

852
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:49,339
yell stano's say hello fifty thousand

853
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:51,770
years miles away sure sounds very

854
00:43:58,720 --> 00:43:55,010
friendly but then he did say the man he

855
00:44:01,150 --> 00:43:58,730
said there was a calamity and no miss up

856
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,160
the midst up he used arada guarded

857
00:44:07,569 --> 00:44:03,920
phrase you know it was a mishap occurred

858
00:44:11,020 --> 00:44:07,579
because the portals had no quarantine or

859
00:44:14,650 --> 00:44:11,030
no immunity so other things got in but

860
00:44:18,730 --> 00:44:14,660
the mishap later sounded like the

861
00:44:21,819 --> 00:44:18,740
Philadelphia Experiment um I remember

862
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:21,829
that was made into a yes yes that was

863
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:24,800
about lost time wasn't her yes and

864
00:44:32,010 --> 00:44:28,730
invisibility as well right yes and then

865
00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:32,020
he he asked me if I did come across

866
00:44:38,530 --> 00:44:35,030
artificial portals to let them know

867
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:38,540
because they wanted to destroy them

868
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:41,839
because they were unwise for the planet

869
00:44:47,770 --> 00:44:45,050
I do know other things about Howard

870
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:47,780
Hughes because I know someone who flew

871
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:51,530
planes with him who is still alive so I

872
00:44:57,940 --> 00:44:54,470
heard a lot of stuff about how would use

873
00:45:00,970 --> 00:44:57,950
so now you mentioned Patrice when we

874
00:45:03,070 --> 00:45:00,980
were all speaking earlier that it wasn't

875
00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:03,080
that Howard was insane at the end of his

876
00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:04,940
life that actually what happened to him

877
00:45:08,730 --> 00:45:06,950
and created imbalance was more to do

878
00:45:12,490 --> 00:45:08,740
with his experience with the portals

879
00:45:16,060 --> 00:45:12,500
that's what I was told by the the

880
00:45:19,570 --> 00:45:16,070
aviator that he's actually Norwegian he

881
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:19,580
told me that how it was never mad he was

882
00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:23,119
simply it simply gone through too many

883
00:45:27,490 --> 00:45:25,430
of these holes when we came back the

884
00:45:30,580 --> 00:45:27,500
same age or younger and it had done him

885
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:30,590
in you know it seemed too much and his

886
00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:33,290
nerves were definitely Fred you know he

887
00:45:41,230 --> 00:45:37,640
was very he was it wired very wide I

888
00:45:44,109 --> 00:45:41,240
think his basic numbers you know he's

889
00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:44,119
grid had been changed by his activities

890
00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:46,040
because obviously probably didn't do any

891
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:47,540
preparation you probably didn't know

892
00:45:53,290 --> 00:45:50,480
about it so he would just go and do just

893
00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:53,300
jump in I would imagine I'm just

894
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,580
thinking that's what he what he did so

895
00:46:01,839 --> 00:45:57,680
he died had no he had no immunity

896
00:46:04,780 --> 00:46:01,849
himself I'm really consider a child he

897
00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:04,790
was ill often and had to be requiring

898
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:06,820
tea and it's strange that he didn't have

899
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:11,560
though that sort of you know

900
00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:14,150
occasionally I and the portals this is

901
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:15,950
what one of the Spaniards told me they

902
00:46:23,980 --> 00:46:19,070
say they commented on that but as far as

903
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:23,990
i know he his portals were too he called

904
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:28,250
them pass no awaken pathways pathways

905
00:46:35,380 --> 00:46:32,000
and he wanted to go through to other

906
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:35,390
other experiences other places and it

907
00:46:42,310 --> 00:46:37,040
would seem very much as though he had

908
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:42,320
succeeded and i feel to the other people

909
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:44,890
or what I'm told is other people have

910
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:48,560
taken up the material so that they too

911
00:46:54,190 --> 00:46:51,440
can go through today you know that's

912
00:46:55,630 --> 00:46:54,200
what they want to do because you can't

913
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:55,640
you know if you think you want to go to

914
00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:00,640
Venus for example which is the domain

915
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:04,520
the main part of the constellation the

916
00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:06,770
Great Bear Venus plays a very big part

917
00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:08,180
over jiron enough you

918
00:47:12,490 --> 00:47:10,760
wanted to go there Davina's you actually

919
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:12,500
wanted to go that would take rather a

920
00:47:18,099 --> 00:47:15,410
long time if you're using though the

921
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:18,109
portal experience you're there the on

922
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:20,930
time you're there immediately so it sort

923
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:23,170
of makes sense it would be a very useful

924
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:26,510
way of going from one place to another

925
00:47:34,510 --> 00:47:30,650
wouldn't it yes it's like Star Trek v me

926
00:47:36,460 --> 00:47:34,520
up but it is within every choice yes but

927
00:47:38,170 --> 00:47:36,470
with Howard it sounds like as you

928
00:47:40,690 --> 00:47:38,180
mentioned that he had been through a lot

929
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,700
of times without any quarantine now when

930
00:47:45,309 --> 00:47:43,040
you say quarantine what's a quarantine

931
00:47:47,260 --> 00:47:45,319
how did they enact quarantine around a

932
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,270
portal I mean he didn't but it sounds

933
00:47:51,970 --> 00:47:49,520
like others did how do you do that no I

934
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:51,980
don't think anyone does i think it's not

935
00:47:58,380 --> 00:47:54,910
true leader okay it's a natural

936
00:48:02,020 --> 00:47:58,390
quarantine of its own in the portal so

937
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:02,030
what happens is things coming through

938
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:05,450
take a lot longer to arrive than they

939
00:48:12,130 --> 00:48:07,369
would if there's no quarantine it just

940
00:48:15,220 --> 00:48:12,140
doesn't jump in it evolves it comes in

941
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:15,230
as safely so that the planet isn't at

942
00:48:21,460 --> 00:48:18,710
risk and I like was going out you've got

943
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:21,470
have done your prep so you know your

944
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:24,710
your again safe to go through into that

945
00:48:30,250 --> 00:48:26,510
experience and if you're not it's not

946
00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:30,260
good news exactly and when Howard

947
00:48:34,359 --> 00:48:32,329
created these portals you're saying he

948
00:48:36,460 --> 00:48:34,369
built them but was there some talk about

949
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:36,470
people blowing holes through the

950
00:48:41,950 --> 00:48:38,450
dimensions to create them that it was a

951
00:48:45,069 --> 00:48:41,960
kind of a violent experience creating

952
00:48:47,289 --> 00:48:45,079
some of these portals artificially done

953
00:48:50,859 --> 00:48:47,299
i don't know i don't know that i don't

954
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:50,869
know how he did it i know that he did do

955
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:53,140
the traveling that he got I mean he had

956
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:57,290
according the the person d aviator well

957
00:49:02,470 --> 00:48:59,210
what do you say he was a young man he

958
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:02,480
was morning born in Norway came from

959
00:49:09,789 --> 00:49:05,119
Norway he was in he flew planes and he

960
00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:09,799
was brilliant he was 17 and the US Air

961
00:49:15,970 --> 00:49:13,190
Force took him asked him to come and

962
00:49:18,849 --> 00:49:15,980
test the heavy Jets so he came over I

963
00:49:21,970 --> 00:49:18,859
suppose that would be in the 50s i would

964
00:49:27,140 --> 00:49:21,980
think fifties early sixties

965
00:49:31,579 --> 00:49:27,150
anyway he came to work for the the the

966
00:49:34,250 --> 00:49:31,589
American aviation company and Howard

967
00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:34,260
Hughes took a liking to him I wanted him

968
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:37,319
to work for him but he didn't he stayed

969
00:49:44,180 --> 00:49:41,250
with with the Air Force and occasionally

970
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:44,190
saw Howard Hughes him and they were he

971
00:49:48,859 --> 00:49:46,650
said we would go out together and talk

972
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:48,869
about planes and we'd fly planes he

973
00:49:54,049 --> 00:49:50,760
never went out looking for chicks you

974
00:49:57,260 --> 00:49:54,059
know so it seemed that their whole and

975
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,270
he stayed around him right up until the

976
00:50:04,220 --> 00:50:00,240
end you know until I'm well not during

977
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:04,230
the time he was in his hotel room on

978
00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:06,329
codeine and so I'm protected on all

979
00:50:12,829 --> 00:50:09,300
sides but he certainly was around him

980
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:12,839
and he said you was never ever ever mad

981
00:50:19,339 --> 00:50:15,690
he was brilliant and what he went once

982
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:19,349
to the UM it must be my guess mom to

983
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:22,020
talk or something like like yeah I guess

984
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:26,160
it was a and um there was a huge disk

985
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:28,319
this huge space underground which is

986
00:50:33,770 --> 00:50:31,410
almost as big as Manhattan and there

987
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:33,780
were with another CIA there were German

988
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:37,140
scientists over soothsayers clairvoyance

989
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:41,910
and sort of an amazing scientist from

990
00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:46,170
Germany people to do with Tesla there

991
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:50,670
was all kinds of a mixture of people

992
00:50:57,289 --> 00:50:53,940
over own course serving Jack Parsons yes

993
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,299
and and the world and how it would

994
00:51:01,849 --> 00:50:59,760
appear i guess in his pajamas you know

995
00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:01,859
like the top or the bottom or both parts

996
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,540
together and the hair and the nails and

997
00:51:08,450 --> 00:51:06,000
all that but no matter to notice and he

998
00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:08,460
just got on with the things he wanted to

999
00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:11,700
do so they were play were looking for

1000
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:19,740
ways of transforming time and space so

1001
00:51:24,410 --> 00:51:22,079
that we were trapped by the boundaries

1002
00:51:27,799 --> 00:51:24,420
of the planet it's interesting because

1003
00:51:30,049 --> 00:51:27,809
he ended up really disregarding a lot of

1004
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,059
the physical body needs towards the end

1005
00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:32,400
of his life and it kind of makes sense

1006
00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:34,500
for what you're saying that all of these

1007
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:35,369
trips ito

1008
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:36,900
through the portals sounds like it

1009
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:39,089
disconnected him from that somewhat so

1010
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:43,170
he had no care about his physical body

1011
00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:48,710
is that possible I yes I did ask the

1012
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:51,720
pilots about that from the way I said is

1013
00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:55,529
um what happened with the you know the

1014
00:52:02,210 --> 00:51:57,480
nails and the hair and all that and he

1015
00:52:04,609 --> 00:52:02,220
said he just didn't notice it he just

1016
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:04,619
didn't have anything to do with it it

1017
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:06,900
was something he couldn't even it he

1018
00:52:13,009 --> 00:52:09,420
probably cease to feel that he was a

1019
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:13,019
being in the human sense a lot of the

1020
00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:16,680
time that's what it sounds like mhm that

1021
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:18,900
is exactly what it sounds like but you

1022
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:20,940
know he wanted the best for the planet

1023
00:52:30,529 --> 00:52:23,849
and when he was young he wanted to have

1024
00:52:34,730 --> 00:52:30,539
um non-toxic travel he wanted cars not

1025
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:34,740
to have fumes or or gasoline smell I

1026
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:38,640
wanted planes to be and clean he didn't

1027
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:41,130
want to pollute the atmosphere that was

1028
00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:43,380
another big thing about Howard Hughes

1029
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:47,099
and so he wanted good results in good

1030
00:52:56,509 --> 00:52:50,730
outcomes for the planet definitely ahead

1031
00:52:59,900 --> 00:52:56,519
of his time yes absolutely was there cuz

1032
00:53:01,279 --> 00:52:59,910
I go ahead p was there any fear of when

1033
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:01,289
you go through the portal of bringing

1034
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:05,369
back any illness or any anything that

1035
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:09,650
would be a problem for us at this side

1036
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:16,049
because of that having us before no not

1037
00:53:20,749 --> 00:53:18,450
if you're going through what you you

1038
00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:20,759
cannot you can't go through in your with

1039
00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:25,230
your physical sort of animal gravity

1040
00:53:31,009 --> 00:53:28,440
ridden body as they call it so right so

1041
00:53:33,979 --> 00:53:31,019
we're not exactly as human beings will

1042
00:53:36,289 --> 00:53:33,989
not that popular but in the astral on

1043
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:36,299
the astral plane our spirit our earth

1044
00:53:41,420 --> 00:53:39,119
eric body oh yes go we go through on

1045
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:41,430
that that's what we go through on the

1046
00:53:46,849 --> 00:53:44,609
body stays outside right and yes sir it

1047
00:53:48,049 --> 00:53:46,859
goes in the conscious the consciousness

1048
00:53:50,329 --> 00:53:48,059
goes in the bit

1049
00:53:54,109 --> 00:53:50,339
we take with us after death that goes in

1050
00:53:56,420 --> 00:53:54,119
and we were very acutely aware and alive

1051
00:53:58,729 --> 00:53:56,430
and it's never ever forgotten that

1052
00:54:01,729 --> 00:53:58,739
journey so when you come back you don't

1053
00:54:04,969 --> 00:54:01,739
do only thing you would bring back would

1054
00:54:11,959 --> 00:54:04,979
be a yearning to go to return to it

1055
00:54:15,620 --> 00:54:11,969
perhaps huge dreams which would be mmm

1056
00:54:18,729 --> 00:54:15,630
perhaps too too much really for a while

1057
00:54:21,890 --> 00:54:18,739
but they settle down a sensitive time

1058
00:54:24,049 --> 00:54:21,900
disorientation to some degree but the

1059
00:54:27,859 --> 00:54:24,059
Adept that remember the ones who've

1060
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:27,869
really worked the the ones who have done

1061
00:54:34,819 --> 00:54:31,380
the fasting and all the preparation and

1062
00:54:37,459 --> 00:54:34,829
spiritual meditation and the lifting out

1063
00:54:40,699 --> 00:54:37,469
of the body all of that those people

1064
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:40,709
don't have any any ill effects

1065
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:45,359
afterwards they go beyond death so that

1066
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:47,910
training really pays off for them they

1067
00:54:53,749 --> 00:54:51,049
have no problem at all traversing these

1068
00:54:55,370 --> 00:54:53,759
interdimensions that's yeah well it

1069
00:54:57,949 --> 00:54:55,380
makes sense everything that you're

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00:54:59,979 --> 00:54:57,959
saying makes perfect sense so for all of

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00:55:02,359 --> 00:54:59,989
our audience members listening to this

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00:55:05,089 --> 00:55:02,369
Katrice is giving you some really good

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00:55:07,069 --> 00:55:05,099
advice on how to proceed if this is

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00:55:09,709 --> 00:55:07,079
something that you're planning to do to

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00:55:12,439 --> 00:55:09,719
make a trip to one of these portals make

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00:55:14,539 --> 00:55:12,449
sure you have a guide make sure you take

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00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:14,549
the necessary steps for spiritual

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00:55:19,779 --> 00:55:17,369
progression this is a very these are

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00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:19,789
very important points that you're making

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00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:22,170
Patrice now unfortunately we're going to

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00:55:27,859 --> 00:55:24,089
have to take another short break so

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00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:27,869
everybody stay with us my goodness this

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00:55:32,749 --> 00:55:30,150
is so incredible this conversation that

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00:55:36,410 --> 00:55:32,759
we're having tonight thanks to Patrice

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00:55:40,579 --> 00:55:36,420
chaplain PK we are having one heck of a

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00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:40,589
great first show yes so everybody please

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00:55:44,569 --> 00:55:42,660
stay tuned if you want to join us in the

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00:55:46,729 --> 00:55:44,579
chat room please feel free will ask your

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00:55:49,309 --> 00:55:46,739
questions for you do you want to call in

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00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:49,319
call in we'd love to hear from you and

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00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:54,089
stay tuned everybody we will be right

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00:56:05,599 --> 00:55:54,960
back

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you didn't forget what's coming up

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00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:33,589
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speaking with our most incredible guest

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00:59:41,799 --> 00:59:39,589
Patrice Chaplin is here with us and we

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00:59:44,109 --> 00:59:41,809
are talking portals we're talking Howard

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00:59:45,220 --> 00:59:44,119
Hughes the CIA if you missed the

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00:59:47,230 --> 00:59:45,230
beginning of the show you're going to

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have to catch it on the archive you

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00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:49,549
don't want to miss one word of this show

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00:59:56,349 --> 00:59:53,150
so Patrice here we are talking about now

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00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:56,359
the stone cradle you've mentioned it a

1176
01:00:02,589 --> 00:59:59,839
couple times but we want to know what is

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01:00:05,170 --> 01:00:02,599
the stone cradle you have a book coming

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01:00:07,420 --> 01:00:05,180
out it's not out yet but we will be

1179
01:00:10,569 --> 01:00:07,430
announcing it when it's available but

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01:00:15,220 --> 01:00:10,579
please give our audience some sense of

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01:00:17,410 --> 01:00:15,230
what this is is it a real object yes it

1182
01:00:22,210 --> 01:00:17,420
indeed it is its own meat you're right

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01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:22,220
in the shape arm no it is in the shape

1184
01:00:28,510 --> 01:00:24,529
of the cradle I thought when I first saw

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01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:28,520
it it was a fruit dish like a huge dish

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:31,609
for fruit and it rocks from side to side

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01:00:39,309 --> 01:00:35,690
it's blue and it's completely smooth

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01:00:43,210 --> 01:00:39,319
it's un-- untouched by any kind will

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01:00:45,279 --> 01:00:43,220
fall to line or discoloration and it's

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01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:45,289
it's supposed to have been one of the

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:48,079
oldest stones well it not supposed to be

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01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:50,690
it is one of the oldest stones on the

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01:00:59,650 --> 01:00:54,890
planet and it was they believe it came

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01:01:05,490 --> 01:00:59,660
through about loves 5 10 million years

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01:01:09,370 --> 01:01:05,500
ago maybe more and it's the only only

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01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:09,380
meteorite in the area which is full of

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01:01:16,210 --> 01:01:12,710
standing stones and dolmens and stones

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01:01:18,309 --> 01:01:16,220
that go back thousands of years ritual

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01:01:22,299 --> 01:01:18,319
stones all kinds of stones but mainly

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01:01:25,569 --> 01:01:22,309
they're granite with quartz inside now

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01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:25,579
this meteorite is something on its own

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01:01:32,770 --> 01:01:28,910
and it is um in the shade

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01:01:39,580 --> 01:01:32,780
of a containing stoned you can lie on

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01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:39,590
and be held by it does rock the other

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01:01:46,690 --> 01:01:43,850
thing it has nutrient some stones have

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01:01:51,010 --> 01:01:46,700
different qualities to them it has

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01:01:54,010 --> 01:01:51,020
certain nutrients which help people who

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01:01:56,590 --> 01:01:54,020
are ill and in the old days and I'm

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01:02:01,660 --> 01:01:56,600
going back two hundred three hundred

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01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:01,670
years people from the locale of the of

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01:02:06,910 --> 01:02:04,250
the meteorite used to go and lie there

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01:02:09,310 --> 01:02:06,920
when they felt they were dying and that

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01:02:12,340 --> 01:02:09,320
they died there they had kind of quite a

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01:02:16,270 --> 01:02:12,350
good death there it seemed and also sick

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01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:16,280
children were placer it originally it

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01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:20,030
held a child of light and that child of

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01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:24,160
light came to this planet in about five

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01:02:31,870 --> 01:02:28,490
thousand plus years ago cause some

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01:02:35,110 --> 01:02:31,880
people think it's Lucifer and in Spain

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01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:35,120
is a shoemakers gold which one of the

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01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:39,110
old guilds that do um worship what is

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01:02:46,780 --> 01:02:42,410
called Louth light which is considered

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01:02:50,980 --> 01:02:46,790
to be Lucifer 'ok now the child of light

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01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:50,990
came to the planet lay on the cradle and

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01:03:00,220 --> 01:02:56,090
was nurtured by a woman well goddess or

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01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:00,230
a natural female from the east and the

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01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:05,330
child came here to to help mankind to

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01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:08,570
lift up into the etheric into the

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:11,150
healing into a higher state of

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01:03:18,850 --> 01:03:15,130
consciousness so whatever was around

1231
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:18,860
5,000 plus years ago they certainly

1232
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:24,160
increased the potential as as beings and

1233
01:03:29,110 --> 01:03:26,480
tried the other thing known about the

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:29,120
child of light definitely was there at

1235
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:32,090
the beginning of the first building his

1236
01:03:41,170 --> 01:03:35,690
first pyramid in Egypt and did start

1237
01:03:42,579 --> 01:03:41,180
what he's known as schools now he being

1238
01:03:44,829 --> 01:03:42,589
trailed

1239
01:03:49,269 --> 01:03:44,839
light around the planet which was

1240
01:03:52,859 --> 01:03:49,279
beneficial and healing and lifting an

1241
01:03:56,650 --> 01:03:52,869
evolving that is finite no it's it's

1242
01:04:00,359 --> 01:03:56,660
diminishing and one of the things one of

1243
01:04:04,930 --> 01:04:00,369
the main purposes of the adit is

1244
01:04:07,509 --> 01:04:04,940
underneath most evolved beings that work

1245
01:04:10,749 --> 01:04:07,519
here and the rituals for the portal one

1246
01:04:14,380 --> 01:04:10,759
of the things they do is to increase to

1247
01:04:18,190 --> 01:04:14,390
keep going that light so the trails of

1248
01:04:20,829 --> 01:04:18,200
light are kept going by their activity

1249
01:04:23,859 --> 01:04:20,839
and by their thought and by their

1250
01:04:26,349 --> 01:04:23,869
well-being and healing now husband

1251
01:04:28,450 --> 01:04:26,359
Fisher it is you know to the rest of the

1252
01:04:31,150 --> 01:04:28,460
planet I don't know but it certainly is

1253
01:04:35,229 --> 01:04:31,160
something that many people have sought

1254
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:35,239
including otto rahn including definitely

1255
01:04:41,759 --> 01:04:38,210
hold use including people who have come

1256
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:41,769
now like junk junk octapharma cradle

1257
01:04:48,130 --> 01:04:44,450
they thought at one point it could be

1258
01:04:53,049 --> 01:04:48,140
the the the head of stone the third eye

1259
01:04:55,479 --> 01:04:53,059
of lucifer that fell when he descended

1260
01:04:58,299 --> 01:04:55,489
to earth that that is the cradle but

1261
01:05:02,019 --> 01:04:58,309
that's again part of a myth the actual

1262
01:05:05,759 --> 01:05:02,029
cradle is an actual stone dolly said it

1263
01:05:08,249 --> 01:05:05,769
had Salvador Dali the Catalan painter

1264
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:08,259
artists you know well known in America

1265
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:11,930
too I mean he said it had twenty three

1266
01:05:17,829 --> 01:05:13,910
dimensions and if you think we've only

1267
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:17,839
got four supposedly then that's rather

1268
01:05:25,420 --> 01:05:21,249
it has rather a lot of powers it can be

1269
01:05:28,089 --> 01:05:25,430
definitely invisible at times that we

1270
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:28,099
can't see it always now I have so many

1271
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:30,079
questions as i know our audience does

1272
01:05:33,999 --> 01:05:32,089
and i see other questions lining up in

1273
01:05:36,099 --> 01:05:34,009
the chat room but we're all gonna have

1274
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:36,109
to buy your book the stone cradle when

1275
01:05:41,709 --> 01:05:39,440
it comes out but immediately oh yeah and

1276
01:05:44,259 --> 01:05:41,719
in the meantime but here's here's a

1277
01:05:48,969 --> 01:05:44,269
question did that light being did he he

1278
01:05:53,140 --> 01:05:48,979
or she have a name well Lucifer was the

1279
01:05:55,870 --> 01:05:53,150
one that comes comes to mind mostly with

1280
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:55,880
people i don't i don't know i mean it

1281
01:05:58,510 --> 01:05:56,480
doesn't

1282
01:06:04,510 --> 01:05:58,520
and beef you know popular with the

1283
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:04,520
church I don't have a name I don't I

1284
01:06:09,970 --> 01:06:07,010
don't know i'm told it's a child of

1285
01:06:13,150 --> 01:06:09,980
light I'm totally society that look

1286
01:06:16,780 --> 01:06:13,160
after the being it was called the

1287
01:06:19,630 --> 01:06:16,790
inheritors of the child of light so it

1288
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:19,640
isn't really so it's a good purpose here

1289
01:06:24,820 --> 01:06:22,850
it's an unfolding of what we can

1290
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:24,830
experience here it's something which

1291
01:06:29,380 --> 01:06:27,290
really helps a planet so it's not it's

1292
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:29,390
not a bad thing but it's certainly

1293
01:06:35,710 --> 01:06:32,410
powerful and there are people there are

1294
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:35,720
mediums who are so powerful they can go

1295
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:39,650
back to the time when the child was in

1296
01:06:47,790 --> 01:06:43,760
that zone cradle and it has a direct

1297
01:06:51,460 --> 01:06:47,800
link with Venus and Venus is said to

1298
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:51,470
send communication to that place where

1299
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:55,490
the Grail is from time to time and it's

1300
01:07:02,040 --> 01:06:58,250
seen as light light in a way that we

1301
01:07:04,750 --> 01:07:02,050
normally would not expect it to video I

1302
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:04,760
cannot wait for your book to be

1303
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:08,030
available to everybody this is something

1304
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:09,920
that has really never been written about

1305
01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:12,770
before to my knowledge no I don't think

1306
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:15,980
so no yeah and this is a very unique and

1307
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:19,130
very powerful subject now just to tie up

1308
01:07:23,770 --> 01:07:21,440
what you're doing with the stone cradle

1309
01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:23,780
now you are saying that there are

1310
01:07:29,380 --> 01:07:26,510
scientists and astronomers that have

1311
01:07:31,660 --> 01:07:29,390
contacted you to be brought to the stone

1312
01:07:33,790 --> 01:07:31,670
cradle because it communicates with

1313
01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:33,800
other planets can you tell us a little

1314
01:07:41,410 --> 01:07:39,040
bit about that not a lot because I'm I

1315
01:07:46,170 --> 01:07:41,420
understand why they want to go there

1316
01:07:50,590 --> 01:07:46,180
because obviously the the the passage of

1317
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:50,600
space between here and Lena's would be

1318
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:54,410
most beneficial you know to any kind of

1319
01:08:01,030 --> 01:07:57,440
experiment and travel I could see why

1320
01:08:05,470 --> 01:08:01,040
that's some useful and it's directly in

1321
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:05,480
line with with Venus and also with the

1322
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:10,050
earlier pole star to burn and the other

1323
01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:15,330
other important set of I don't know what

1324
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:18,660
you called Draco Draco zur you know the

1325
01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:23,250
dragon Draco was a mmm an earlier

1326
01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:27,060
earlier kind of star system i believed

1327
01:08:33,140 --> 01:08:29,910
rekal isn't it I'm not wasteful I

1328
01:08:36,110 --> 01:08:33,150
believe so anyway that was that is also

1329
01:08:38,150 --> 01:08:36,120
part of it now the thing really is it

1330
01:08:39,710 --> 01:08:38,160
wouldn't no one would ever know but the

1331
01:08:42,230 --> 01:08:39,720
stone cradle if they hadn't have gone

1332
01:08:45,860 --> 01:08:42,240
through the portal and arrived at that

1333
01:08:49,070 --> 01:08:45,870
point where it is the journey would have

1334
01:08:52,940 --> 01:08:49,080
to be made out of the portal and

1335
01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:52,950
continue around back towards girona and

1336
01:08:59,120 --> 01:08:56,040
there in the center of to like the

1337
01:09:01,970 --> 01:08:59,130
Pisces vertical Pisces in the center of

1338
01:09:05,090 --> 01:09:01,980
two overlapping circles there we have it

1339
01:09:08,690 --> 01:09:05,100
there's the place of the cradle nothing

1340
01:09:12,260 --> 01:09:08,700
around nothing for miles except dolmens

1341
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:12,270
and standing stones and very very old

1342
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:15,810
trees so you know things things thinking

1343
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:19,170
thousands of years back incredible well

1344
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:21,450
this is quite a story that you are

1345
01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:23,730
telling in your new book the stone

1346
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:26,310
cradle and we will let everybody know

1347
01:09:31,070 --> 01:09:28,650
when it's available because this is

1348
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,080
something really brand new to the

1349
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:32,880
paranormal community as far as I can

1350
01:09:38,150 --> 01:09:35,520
tell and I know people are going to be

1351
01:09:40,130 --> 01:09:38,160
more than chomping at the bit to get

1352
01:09:42,380 --> 01:09:40,140
ahold of your book so you let us know as

1353
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:42,390
soon as it's out because i do want to

1354
01:09:47,420 --> 01:09:43,920
leave a little bit of time here for

1355
01:09:50,900 --> 01:09:47,430
trees course you have another book again

1356
01:09:54,079 --> 01:09:50,910
one more new book we need to talk about

1357
01:09:57,740 --> 01:09:54,089
and this is another exciting adventure

1358
01:10:00,970 --> 01:09:57,750
that you have written about and tell us

1359
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:00,980
about this latest book this is fabulous

1360
01:10:09,260 --> 01:10:04,800
well that the fortunes solo work and

1361
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:09,270
it's about oh yeah it's about us what is

1362
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:11,370
it about well it's about a true story of

1363
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:16,560
a performer who fell 12 from far from

1364
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:19,110
fame after two hits you know there were

1365
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:23,130
two big hits and and nothing she will

1366
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:23,770
not

1367
01:10:28,710 --> 01:10:26,050
she went out of date and so there was

1368
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:28,720
nothing more coming out of her that was

1369
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:31,360
succeeding and accept the only thing it

1370
01:10:38,010 --> 01:10:33,910
was succeeding where whether overdraft

1371
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:38,020
so she was really broke and she had to

1372
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,080
take work as she wanted to do a backing

1373
01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:42,640
singer she didn't want to do any of it

1374
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:45,550
you know the lower staff that would come

1375
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:47,110
to her she couldn't you couldn't know

1376
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:51,280
after her career so she did work as a

1377
01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:55,360
telephone psychic a nytimes telephone

1378
01:11:03,660 --> 01:10:59,920
psychic she had no idea about how to be

1379
01:11:05,610 --> 01:11:03,670
clairvoyant but she realized if she just

1380
01:11:08,820 --> 01:11:05,620
read the cards to the person on the

1381
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:08,830
phone who could tell whether she was

1382
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:11,110
right or wrong because they were telling

1383
01:11:18,780 --> 01:11:16,210
the future so after why she learned some

1384
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:18,790
of the some of the old fashioned spread

1385
01:11:23,970 --> 01:11:20,610
she like she learned from other

1386
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:23,980
clairvoyance how to read how to read the

1387
01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:27,070
you know the ordinary playing cards yeah

1388
01:11:32,190 --> 01:11:30,520
like a day the amazing spreads they

1389
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:32,200
heard like those things called the

1390
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:35,680
surprise or the seven card spread the

1391
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:37,060
work there are things that we don't have

1392
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:40,290
today though these were used by these

1393
01:11:48,330 --> 01:11:43,330
really really very good clever ones and

1394
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:48,340
also get of course the Tarot and and how

1395
01:11:57,630 --> 01:11:53,650
to see how to attune and see what is

1396
01:12:00,090 --> 01:11:57,640
there how to actually use time in a way

1397
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:00,100
where you suspend it so you're not on

1398
01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:04,090
ordinary clock time so you can you can

1399
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:07,480
get the messages from other places the

1400
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:10,870
guides and you pick up of course the all

1401
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:13,810
the kind of energies of the person

1402
01:12:17,970 --> 01:12:16,000
you're speaking to well we've got to do

1403
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:17,980
is the attunement bit like going through

1404
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:21,520
a portal really and she learned some of

1405
01:12:26,990 --> 01:12:24,130
that but the thing about it is that she

1406
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:27,000
did a reading for a very enigmatic

1407
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:32,640
rather classy reader and that that

1408
01:12:37,790 --> 01:12:36,010
client rather not read a client and that

1409
01:12:40,410 --> 01:12:37,800
led to

1410
01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:40,420
obsessional love beyond the grave

1411
01:12:47,459 --> 01:12:43,289
further than death it led to something

1412
01:12:50,490 --> 01:12:47,469
absolutely never to be expected and

1413
01:12:52,979 --> 01:12:50,500
that's what that book is about so it's

1414
01:12:56,399 --> 01:12:52,989
about clairvoyance and it's a

1415
01:12:58,919 --> 01:12:56,409
supernatural thriller it's and it's a

1416
01:13:01,439 --> 01:12:58,929
great book because again both PK and I

1417
01:13:04,290 --> 01:13:01,449
have had the luxury of having previewed

1418
01:13:06,990 --> 01:13:04,300
at its excellent out that that book is

1419
01:13:09,149 --> 01:13:07,000
available right now on amazon.com and

1420
01:13:11,729 --> 01:13:09,159
probably at your local bookstore and

1421
01:13:14,430 --> 01:13:11,739
again another great book from you

1422
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:14,440
Patrice and i have to say when when we

1423
01:13:19,379 --> 01:13:17,440
read your books we really feel drawn in

1424
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:19,389
to the world that you're telling us

1425
01:13:22,919 --> 01:13:21,489
about it is much more than just reading

1426
01:13:25,649 --> 01:13:22,929
it you're right there with you and

1427
01:13:28,740 --> 01:13:25,659
that's because of your ability as a

1428
01:13:30,359 --> 01:13:28,750
writer you're so amazing but what how

1429
01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:30,369
about this can you share with our

1430
01:13:35,549 --> 01:13:31,900
audience because I know they've all been

1431
01:13:38,399 --> 01:13:35,559
waiting for this how can we increase our

1432
01:13:40,020 --> 01:13:38,409
own psychic abilities how do we tune in

1433
01:13:42,990 --> 01:13:40,030
if we can we may not be able to go to

1434
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:43,000
girona but we may not be able to take

1435
01:13:50,609 --> 01:13:45,010
that trip to the portal but how do we do

1436
01:13:52,799 --> 01:13:50,619
this achievement it's letting go its

1437
01:13:54,930 --> 01:13:52,809
first of all it's a breathing you've got

1438
01:13:57,060 --> 01:13:54,940
to let go of the art breath just let it

1439
01:13:59,910 --> 01:13:57,070
go and trust your body's going to

1440
01:14:02,760 --> 01:13:59,920
breathe in for you and you've got to

1441
01:14:04,740 --> 01:14:02,770
cover yourself with protection gold

1442
01:14:07,919 --> 01:14:04,750
light from the top of your head to the

1443
01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:07,929
soles of your feet you've got to just

1444
01:14:15,390 --> 01:14:12,190
not concentrate but contemplate I maybe

1445
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:15,400
on a like a flame the flame is a good

1446
01:14:21,870 --> 01:14:19,690
one or bronze Bowl something just that

1447
01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:21,880
you can look at close your eyes see it

1448
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:24,940
in your mind and let it go then you were

1449
01:14:32,819 --> 01:14:29,730
tuned so you become aware of and you can

1450
01:14:37,260 --> 01:14:32,829
see in a slightly different way almost

1451
01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:37,270
like a daydream state the being in front

1452
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:41,409
of you you will receive imprints now the

1453
01:14:47,819 --> 01:14:44,070
imprint is important because it's not

1454
01:14:50,669 --> 01:14:47,829
your imagination that's working here or

1455
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:50,679
your thoughts or some desperate you know

1456
01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:51,310
clam

1457
01:15:01,470 --> 01:14:56,620
tell the person no this is about just

1458
01:15:04,650 --> 01:15:01,480
receiving an imprint or a feeling that

1459
01:15:06,570 --> 01:15:04,660
you can always locate again so you know

1460
01:15:10,170 --> 01:15:06,580
it's not confirming you it's come from

1461
01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:10,180
outside into you into your mind and you

1462
01:15:16,940 --> 01:15:13,300
pass on that to the person one of the

1463
01:15:19,710 --> 01:15:16,950
best ways of actually I think of

1464
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:19,720
developing it when one takes time about

1465
01:15:25,230 --> 01:15:22,690
developing as a clairvoyant it needs

1466
01:15:28,050 --> 01:15:25,240
time but it's psychometry now if you

1467
01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:28,060
pick up something belonging to the

1468
01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:31,270
person that only they've used and you

1469
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:34,510
hold it go with the first image you get

1470
01:15:40,380 --> 01:15:37,930
just hold the object and just what's

1471
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:40,390
your first image then put the object

1472
01:15:47,250 --> 01:15:44,530
don't trust your first image of course

1473
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:47,260
the cards are useful there are under

1474
01:15:53,940 --> 01:15:51,280
cards for in a language each each card

1475
01:15:56,700 --> 01:15:53,950
is a part of an alphabet so they form a

1476
01:15:59,340 --> 01:15:56,710
language you learn to read it I would

1477
01:16:01,020 --> 01:15:59,350
throw the textbook away you know the

1478
01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:01,030
guide book because everyone has their

1479
01:16:05,580 --> 01:16:03,670
own way of reading that's true yes as

1480
01:16:07,980 --> 01:16:05,590
you know I we know that debt you know

1481
01:16:09,690 --> 01:16:07,990
death it doesn't isn't the death card

1482
01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:09,700
that's change everyone looks at that

1483
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:12,910
point singers all when when's that gonna

1484
01:16:17,190 --> 01:16:15,130
happen to me right well it's gonna

1485
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:17,200
happen but not when the death card is

1486
01:16:24,150 --> 01:16:20,560
that her let's change all right so I'm

1487
01:16:27,060 --> 01:16:24,160
under I think the thing too is it's

1488
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:27,070
beneficial because it opens people up

1489
01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:31,090
and it opens us up to another way of

1490
01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:34,600
seeing and hearing so we on a much more

1491
01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:38,710
vivid level and a plane of existence I

1492
01:16:44,460 --> 01:16:41,310
think it's a very beautiful thing to do

1493
01:16:49,770 --> 01:16:44,470
there are many sort of pitfalls with it

1494
01:16:52,890 --> 01:16:49,780
but they can always be weary addressed

1495
01:16:58,140 --> 01:16:52,900
you know as you go along and the main

1496
01:17:01,440 --> 01:16:58,150
thing is to trust your intuition your

1497
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:01,450
achievement and your guide because you

1498
01:17:08,110 --> 01:17:04,970
will as time goes on receive information

1499
01:17:11,230 --> 01:17:08,120
about your guide who after is handing

1500
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:11,240
this from spirit I couldn't get it just

1501
01:17:15,130 --> 01:17:13,280
by thinking I mean if you think about if

1502
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:15,140
we were thought readers would rule the

1503
01:17:21,850 --> 01:17:19,850
world with no oh yeah honking yes I mean

1504
01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:21,860
I was back that's the best one of the

1505
01:17:29,170 --> 01:17:25,910
best ways but it is about taking time to

1506
01:17:31,930 --> 01:17:29,180
tune in that's really what it is isn't

1507
01:17:35,380 --> 01:17:31,940
it I'm although and then to use your

1508
01:17:38,020 --> 01:17:35,390
chakras you know go into the top you

1509
01:17:40,660 --> 01:17:38,030
know the crown of the head and even

1510
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:40,670
higher with a higher chakras than the

1511
01:17:47,490 --> 01:17:43,760
Kronan head does two three four above

1512
01:17:51,580 --> 01:17:47,500
that will take us even further but again

1513
01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:51,590
do it kind of slowly and with some views

1514
01:17:59,050 --> 01:17:55,760
with us on who can develop prevalence or

1515
01:18:01,900 --> 01:17:59,060
a healer will do it I mean there's lots

1516
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:01,910
of ways and there is another question

1517
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:03,920
for you Patrice from the chat room that

1518
01:18:06,970 --> 01:18:05,120
goes right along with what you're

1519
01:18:10,180 --> 01:18:06,980
sharing with everyone tonight she would

1520
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:10,190
like to know is there a specific

1521
01:18:16,270 --> 01:18:13,490
Institute or a site for training as one

1522
01:18:18,430 --> 01:18:16,280
sets out upon the path to visit the

1523
01:18:21,670 --> 01:18:18,440
portal is there some place to go where

1524
01:18:24,610 --> 01:18:21,680
you can learn what to do well it's a

1525
01:18:28,450 --> 01:18:24,620
good question they're all but mostly

1526
01:18:32,650 --> 01:18:28,460
they come to you that's the thing it's

1527
01:18:35,950 --> 01:18:32,660
it's I think a for example you go into

1528
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:35,960
Girona you would you would know quite

1529
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:39,370
soon about those who do the journey

1530
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:43,730
that's for sure or you can go with a

1531
01:18:51,190 --> 01:18:48,080
medium who would be able to help you on

1532
01:18:53,410 --> 01:18:51,200
that journey but to actually do that

1533
01:18:55,150 --> 01:18:53,420
going through the portal you've got to

1534
01:18:58,450 --> 01:18:55,160
get the right you've got to get the

1535
01:19:01,360 --> 01:18:58,460
guide there's no question so I feel that

1536
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:01,370
that is something i mean i can't just

1537
01:19:06,780 --> 01:19:03,890
give a an address in a postcode because

1538
01:19:10,450 --> 01:19:06,790
I've been in a lot of trouble and

1539
01:19:15,190 --> 01:19:10,460
wrangling a private enterprise let's say

1540
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:15,200
into the area into the area and then

1541
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:17,690
you're going to find the place you're

1542
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:18,890
going to find the guide

1543
01:19:25,450 --> 01:19:22,310
if you want to do it it'll be there now

1544
01:19:27,670 --> 01:19:25,460
what about also with with the emotional

1545
01:19:29,260 --> 01:19:27,680
body there's often a lot of things going

1546
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:29,270
flying around with that that's kind of

1547
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:31,010
like the rocket fuel that did Jack

1548
01:19:37,570 --> 01:19:33,890
Parsons in I mean it gets very volatile

1549
01:19:40,510 --> 01:19:37,580
in the emotional space for many of us do

1550
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:40,520
you recommend any kind of emotional work

1551
01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:44,210
any kind of counseling or rebirthing or

1552
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:47,710
anything that helps to clear out stuck

1553
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:50,690
emotional places and stuck emotional

1554
01:19:58,420 --> 01:19:54,650
patterns yes I think one of the best is

1555
01:20:02,100 --> 01:19:58,430
a psychic baptism now all you need do

1556
01:20:06,610 --> 01:20:02,110
that is to get look at it light a candle

1557
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:06,620
get some sheets of paper I'm right some

1558
01:20:12,010 --> 01:20:09,040
write to somebody that you really are

1559
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:12,020
upset by you know someone who has left

1560
01:20:16,090 --> 01:20:13,730
jus something's really harmed you

1561
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:16,100
whatever dad that's one of the first

1562
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:20,000
thing now you just simply write what the

1563
01:20:24,940 --> 01:20:23,090
worst things are that they've done just

1564
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:24,950
like you did this you did that you did

1565
01:20:28,590 --> 01:20:26,570
this you did that you know it's not an

1566
01:20:31,390 --> 01:20:28,600
essay doesn't have to be neatly written

1567
01:20:34,150 --> 01:20:31,400
don't be read it sign your name at the

1568
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:34,160
end take it over to the sink take the

1569
01:20:40,630 --> 01:20:37,280
candle burn the letter so you've just

1570
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:40,640
got ashes there wash with cold water

1571
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:44,090
turn the tap on wash down some of the

1572
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:47,810
ash and then throw salt on the plug

1573
01:20:53,470 --> 01:20:51,050
because that's gonna actually nutria

1574
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:53,480
fire all the kind of angry negative

1575
01:20:57,250 --> 01:20:55,370
vibes that will be a good thing to do

1576
01:21:00,640 --> 01:20:57,260
definitely the Spanish always do that

1577
01:21:02,020 --> 01:21:00,650
then go for a walk around the block you

1578
01:21:05,770 --> 01:21:02,030
work when you can bat your may feel

1579
01:21:09,730 --> 01:21:05,780
emotional you may not but within a few

1580
01:21:13,300 --> 01:21:09,740
days you will have lifted up into a much

1581
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:13,310
lighter state that's number one it's old

1582
01:21:19,930 --> 01:21:16,490
and it works the second thing is

1583
01:21:21,610 --> 01:21:19,940
definitely rebirthing and sometimes

1584
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:21,620
people as you probably know do it

1585
01:21:26,410 --> 01:21:23,840
through breathing yes lying and just

1586
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:26,420
breathing and allowing your mind to go

1587
01:21:32,350 --> 01:21:29,330
back into other times other lives that's

1588
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:32,360
pretty good too anything to do

1589
01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:36,110
with clearing is excellent breathing is

1590
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:38,560
wonderful as i said earlier but the

1591
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:41,810
letting go of the out breast and just

1592
01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:44,570
letting it go of its own and trusting

1593
01:21:50,530 --> 01:21:47,870
the body to breathe in untie so lots of

1594
01:21:53,650 --> 01:21:50,540
meditation that's that's a must and

1595
01:21:56,410 --> 01:21:53,660
keeping a notebook am writing down every

1596
01:22:00,850 --> 01:21:56,420
day your thoughts and letting yourself

1597
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:00,860
free right so that they all go one to

1598
01:22:05,710 --> 01:22:02,960
the other to the other teaser that way

1599
01:22:07,930 --> 01:22:05,720
you discover a whole inner self that you

1600
01:22:10,150 --> 01:22:07,940
didn't well you know because you feel it

1601
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:10,160
sometimes but you don't really you're

1602
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:12,410
not really familiar with it good to know

1603
01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:15,670
good to know as much as possible about

1604
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:21,380
yourself going deep in others other ways

1605
01:22:27,700 --> 01:22:24,610
of doing doing it chanting and sound

1606
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:27,710
sounded very very clear don't you know

1607
01:22:33,700 --> 01:22:31,730
those sounds like f sharp wonderful well

1608
01:22:35,890 --> 01:22:33,710
this is many things don't know really

1609
01:22:38,140 --> 01:22:35,900
that you can do yeah these are these are

1610
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:38,150
great in the psychic baptism I have

1611
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,130
never heard of that PK have you heard of

1612
01:22:45,460 --> 01:22:42,320
that that and it's Harvard wonderful

1613
01:22:47,890 --> 01:22:45,470
fabulous yeah I mean after know what you

1614
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:47,900
can do several I mean you do several

1615
01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:50,330
people have really you know really hurt

1616
01:22:54,670 --> 01:22:52,880
you that's the one way to really clear

1617
01:22:57,460 --> 01:22:54,680
it because you're carrying that hurt

1618
01:22:59,680 --> 01:22:57,470
with you all the time but you can't do

1619
01:23:01,330 --> 01:22:59,690
them all at once your do one after the

1620
01:23:05,380 --> 01:23:01,340
other I'd leave a week or two between

1621
01:23:06,940 --> 01:23:05,390
each Daniel you're free you see what

1622
01:23:09,580 --> 01:23:06,950
you're looking for is freedom it's

1623
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:09,590
assume the portal journey and in its

1624
01:23:15,370 --> 01:23:11,810
essence its vivid and marvelous and

1625
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:15,380
shows we have much more space much more

1626
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:18,320
happening than what we see here on this

1627
01:23:24,670 --> 01:23:21,530
planet it's wonderful for that point of

1628
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:24,680
view but also that we're free there's

1629
01:23:31,420 --> 01:23:28,130
leb yeah that is the key right there and

1630
01:23:33,970 --> 01:23:31,430
the trees I hate to say this because we

1631
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:33,980
are at the end of our show and I would

1632
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:36,320
love to keep talking to you I know PK

1633
01:23:41,260 --> 01:23:38,330
with you all night long this has been an

1634
01:23:43,330 --> 01:23:41,270
amazing experience with you we will

1635
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:43,340
treasure this first show with you

1636
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:45,110
forever and

1637
01:23:49,810 --> 01:23:47,360
again everybody go out and buy Patrice

1638
01:23:52,689 --> 01:23:49,820
chaplains books each one of them is a

1639
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:52,699
treasure in and of itself get the portal

1640
01:23:59,410 --> 01:23:56,480
and then get on the list for the stone

1641
01:24:02,290 --> 01:23:59,420
cradle read the fortune seller that's

1642
01:24:04,899 --> 01:24:02,300
out right now all of Patrice's books are

1643
01:24:06,939 --> 01:24:04,909
listed on amazon com I want to thank

1644
01:24:09,370 --> 01:24:06,949
everybody for coming to the show tonight

1645
01:24:12,459 --> 01:24:09,380
and supporting us our first show on

1646
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:12,469
inception radio network and Katrice a

1647
01:24:20,109 --> 01:24:17,449
big hug to you thank you so huge yes I

1648
01:24:22,540 --> 01:24:20,119
didn't have a delight yeah how lucky we

1649
01:24:24,939 --> 01:24:22,550
are junkie who are you thanks for the

1650
01:24:27,790 --> 01:24:24,949
listeners lovely to know you there thank

1651
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:27,800
you thank you all and everybody stay

1652
01:24:32,050 --> 01:24:29,330
tuned next week we're going to be

1653
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:32,060
talking about Akashic records until then